Printed letters, January 29, 2013

Hunting is a privilege granted and controlled by the state. The right to bear arms is an inalienable right protected by the Second Amendment, and it arises from a power higher than government.

If armed citizens had responded in Aurora, it’s possible the shooter could have been neutralized in the 90 seconds it took police to respond. In any event, expecting anything less than pandemonium in those circumstances is fanciful.

How many school security officers would Jim Spehar be willing to fund, and from what sources? If none, does he trade that decision for later silence if the unspeakable occurs?

Columbine had a single assigned officer who, in a random and astoundingly tragic turn of fate, elected to eat lunch that day in his patrol car and observe students in the school parking lot. Normally he ate in the student cafeteria, where much of the carnage took place.

Virginia Tech is a 2,600-acre campus with 125 buildings, 33,000 students and 1,900 faculty members. The campus police department comprises 52 sworn officers, complemented by secondary security and campus watch personnel. The U.S. national average is approximately two officers per 1,000 citizens, or, on a comparable basis, a force of 70 officers at Virginia Tech before giving effect to secondary support personnel.

Front Sight Firearms Training Institute, arguably the world’s leader in defensive firearm training for private citizens, has offered to train — free of charge — up to three school staff members from each school, college or university who are designated as “school safety monitors” by the schools’ chief administrators.

BUD MARKOS

Grand Junction

Jim Spehar raises cogent 
questions on gun violence

I read with great interest Jim Spehar’s column in The Daily Sentinel Jan. 22, “Wrestling with complex questions,” concerning gun violence and gun policies in Colorado and the United States. I believe Spehar is by far the most thoughtful, intelligent, articulate local columnist the Sentinel publishes.

His latest column summarized the recent history of gun violence and the gun communities’ responses to that violence. More significantly, he succinctly and thoroughly posed, as he put it, “questions I’ve wondered about as a citizen, a husband, a parent, a former elected official and a life-long gun owner while absorbing the senseless killings we’ve seen and also following the resulting debates.”

His column articulated and got to the heart of the major issues and questions surrounding guns and needed, sane gun control laws.

I, like Spehar, have been a hunter my whole adult life, and I presently own pistols, rifles and shotguns. Yet, I have no problem registering my guns (what do I have to hide?) if that is what it would take to bring sanity to the issue.

The most cogent of Spehar’s questions is: “Why is it OK for wildlife regulations to limit the ammunition in my rifles and shotguns while hunting, but supposedly unconstitutional to limit the capacity of clips for AR-15s and other similar weapons?” Is protecting animals more significant than protecting human life?

HARMON LISNOW

Loma

 

America refuses to teach
rational basis for morality

In his Jan. 22 column, Jim Spehar looks for some officials to find answers to “important questions.” One problem is that the people in this country have turned our responsibility over to some elite, who have offered the wrong answers to things that are not so. If Spehar wonders why he is regulated in the number of shells in his waterfowl, sporting gun and yet, in another firearm for another function, he is not, then please, have a seat, sir.

Like Spehar, many are asking questions. A couple I did not hear, however, were: Why is America perhaps the first major civilization that refuses to teach a rational basis for morality (or even morality itself) to its youth? Do you think there might be consequences?

Did the people who were murdered during any of the shootings have any real worth? Certainly the ones grieving tell us so. Even Spehar must think so, as he is looking for answers concerning these folks and must also think that his musings (therefore himself) have meaning. What is the question here? Why do people have real worth and meaning? Or do they? If they do not, then there is no problem.

Are not the answers to these questions slightly more important than how much ammunition I can accumulate and discharge? They will certainly go a long way in informing one what not to shoot at and why.

TERRY BRIDGMAN

Grand Junction

 

Closed meetings show
lack of responsiveness

County commissioners having closed-door meetings to get ready for the meetings, and not having transparency — seems like some back-scratching is going on by some outside sources.

I sent in several comments to one particular commissioner about working for the good of the county and to pass it on. I believe my comments went into the trash can. I never got a respectable reply. This may also apply to the city.

RAFAEL A. SALAZ

Grand Junction



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Does anybody besides me feel a need to barf every time they see a wannabe-clever lib statment like Harmon Lisnow’s “what do I have to hide?” in reference to his willingness to register his guns? That manipulative “question” (actually a statement of demonization) clearly implies that anyone who disagrees with libs does have something to hide. That’s provably false.
Notice such as Lisnow (and his lib hero Jim Spehar) never EVER talk about such things as the provably UNconstitutional global debt-as-money fraud, or unsustainable and/or unconstitutional economic models. Many of their ilk indirectly make their living from the fraud. Notice they never talk about the National Security Act of 1947 or the CIA Act of 1949 which allow the black bag crowd to spend trillions off the books in the so-called “black” budget which result in things like Donald Rumsfeld making a public announcement that $2.3 trillion is missing at the Pentagon? What does Lisnow’s precious Big Brother government have to hide? Hmmm? What about that?
When I was a kid, a billion dollars was a huge amount. Now trillions are nothing and we have well over $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities and over a quadrillion in phony, criminally fraudulent “derivatives” floating around out there in the economy. The next number is quintillion. The so-called “national debt” is a complete and unsustainable fraud. The American government, led by a constitutionally ineligible scam artist from Kenya has become a criminal duopoly cabal which daily scoffs at the U.S. Constitution. Race and class division have become standard political strategies. The Makers and Takers are at each others throats. Understandably, civility has disappeared from the public discourse.
Enough is enough. So-called “inflation” is just a numbers game. The parity inevitably changes between the bogus increases in the debt-as-money supply created out of thin air by the government monopoly on violence and the consumer goods (aka “commodities) which are bought with the fraudulent moral-hazard-based “legal” tender. That means the stuff we want to buy costs more numbers and every man, woman and child owes $50,000+ on the national debt alone, $189,000 if you count the unfunded liabilities, and $190,00 for every human ON THE PLANET for the bogus derivatives.
Unbeknownst to low-information polemically-cutesy liberal voters like Lisnow and Spehar, the reason the global debt-as-money oligarchy wants to first register, then confiscate, guns is because they need to disarm the people before they can steal everybody’s assets via taxation.
Only ignoramuses will voluntarily give up their guns or provide information about them to a criminal cabal.

So Markos thinks he has an answer:
“But having armed security on-site failed to prevent the deadliest mass shooting at an American high school.
In 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 15 people and wounded 23 more at Columbine High School. The destruction occurred despite the fact that there was an armed security officer at the school and another one nearby—exactly what LaPierre argued on Friday was the answer to stopping “a bad guy with a gun.”
Deputy Neil Gardner was a 15-year veteran of the Jefferson County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office assigned as the uniformed officer at Columbine. According to an account compiled by the police department, Gardner fired on Harris but was unsuccessful in stopping him:
Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy.
After the exchange of gunfire, Harris ran back into the building. Gardner was able to get on the police radio and called for assistance from other Sheriff’s units. “Shots in the building. I need someone in the south lot with me.”
The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn’t stop him.
LaPierre said having armed security on the scene is necessary so someone is there to shoot back. “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” he said. “Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away—or a minute away?”
But in chaotic situations, it’s often impossible to identify the “bad guy,” as Smoker said in his account of Columbine: “There was an unknown inside a school. We didn’t know who the ‘bad guy’ was but we soon realized the sophistication of their weapons. These were big bombs. Big guns. We didn’t have a clue who ‘they’ were.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/columbine-armed-guards_n_2347096.html

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